Perspective: Why We Have It So Good

Posted by Wednesday, August 24, 2011, No Comments

Koala at Taronga Zoo, Sydney, photo by Andrew Ingersoll

 

by Andrew Ingersoll
In the three-plus years I’ve lived in Sydney, I’ve yet to see an Australian credit card offer that has struck my interest. I was having a chat with Rick and he suggested I explore a typical Australian offer to put into perspective how good we, as Americans, have it to take advantage of this hacking game responsibly.

Here are some of the highlights from the American Express Ultimate Qantas Card.

1. To be eligible for all or part of the 30,000 Qantas Frequent Flyer points offer, you must be a new card applicant who does not currently hold any of the Qantas American Express Card products. Points are awarded as follows:

• 5000 points after your first purchase on the card

• 22,500 points after you spend $500 on purchases on your card within the first two months of becoming a card member

• 2500 points after your first card spend in Australia on selected Qantas products and services

Maximum number of points available under this offer is 30,000 points. Please allow six to eight weeks after you have made the eligible spend for the points to be credited to your account. Qantas Frequent Flyer membership and points are subject to the terms and conditions of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program.

 

2. You must be a member of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program to earn and redeem points. A joining fee may apply. (It does: to merely sign up for the Qantas Frequent Flyer program, there is an $82.50 fee!!)

 

3. To be eligible for the reduced annual Card fee of $250 for the first year, you must be a new Card applicant who does not currently hold any of the Qantas American Express Card products and apply via the online application by 15 September 2011 and be approved. An annual fee of $450 will apply after the first year.

 

4. Interest rate of 20.74% p.a

Now, even if you were to sign up for this card, which I can’t recommend based on the fees alone, we can now look at how far 30,000 points will take you.

Nap time for the Red Kangaroos

 

Qantas has a scheme that allows you to redeem points for the cost of the ticket and then pay taxes in cash/credit, OR you can use points to pay for the ticket AND the taxes. For the purpose of saving money, I’ll illustrate some round trip ECONOMY examples in which taxes are paid with points.

Sydney – Melbourne = 25,000 points (439 miles each way) Zone 1

Brisbane – Hobart = 42,000 points (1115 miles each way) Zone 2

Cairns – Perth = 45,000 points (2135 miles each way) Zone 3

These results are rather underwhelming for me, especially when I look at Americans AAdvantage partner awards redemption.

 

The AAdvantage award for the South Pacific allows you to redeem points, whereby flights wholly within Australia (and extending to New Zealand) fall under one award.

So, if we redeem American Airlines AAdvantage miles on Qantas metal we’ll see:

Sydney – Melbourne = 20,000

Brisbane – Hobart = 20,000

Cairns – Perth = 20,000

I suppose my point in illustrating this comparison is to help you appreciate the value of your points and to encourage you to choose your loyalty program carefully. As Americans, we really are pretty lucky to live in a market where banks and point programs are always trying to out-do each other. You can rest assured that when the next big promotion comes around, we tell you about it right here. — A.I.
$300 American Airlines Gift Card for $270
Win, the co-organizer of the Chicago Seminars, will help you get these gift cards at a discount if you do not have a Costco nearby. Read on…
Rick:
As you know, Costco is offering a $300 American Airlines gift card for $270, an offer discussed on the major FF sites with T&C at www.aa.com/giftcard. This is available only in a few Costco locations nationwide (and not by mail order). You will recall that last year I offered to purchase the Costco 20% Hyatt gift certs and resell them at cost to your readers, which I did to the tune of several thousand dollars. I am happy to do the same again for these AA gift cards, as one of my local Costcos has them. Anyone interested may email me at efsebay@aol.com and I’ll send a note describing how to proceed. Thanks. – Win


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  • David

    Come on Rick… this is bs. 1 random email guy has reported issues, while lots of users are reporting the opposite… "Some of us may have lost a few MR points with the tightening of bumping the bonus, but these two cards look like a chance to get some of those bonuses back."

    You can do better than posting 1 email on your site that's negative about other offers, to help solicit your 50k Gold Biz offer…

  • FrugalTravelGuy

    David: Thanks for your comments but why shoot the messenger here? I report the info I get to you readers to alert you of what I'm hearing. The email I got from George was not the only comment to substantiate the claim they are tightening down. Read the appropriate post. If you follow this blog regularly I don't need to shill for card sign ups and you'll see me call a bad offer as I see it when it is out there.

    And more importantly, I'm not interested in which is the best card offer, I'm interested in which card offerS (PLURAL) are the best. If I was to get one card offer per year, your comments may be valid, but this group of readers is way past that mentality. We need MULTIPLE card offers every 90 days and anybody that looks down on this card offer because they got lucky with one or two bump the bonuses, is missing another great opportunity for 50K with no first year fee. I'll take 50K for free everytime it comes up. Readers?

  • Chris

    Rick: As always, I appreciate the heads up. However, I'm not so sure this is an improvement. Recently, we've seen large bonuses and many have obtained bumps and bonuses in the 100K range for Membership Rewards. 2x spending on advertising and shipping really doesn't do much for many of your readers. Given the competitive environment with other cards, I would like to see AMEX offer this amount or more of MR points for a personal card which didn't require CSR roulette to know if you may get a bonus.

  • Bradley "Carberrie"

    Thank you Frugal Travel Guy!!! I completely agree with you and thank you for sharing so much useful information!!!

  • ben

    Has anyone had any experience with receiving the American Express Business Gold Rewards as an individual? I have to charge a lot in advertising to my personal card and get reimbursed by my firm (my company does not offer access to business Amex cards). Thanks for any insight.

  • Anonymous

    @David – I think it goes without saying for regular reasons of FTG, but your baseless attack is unwarranted. Even yesterday, FTG posted newly discovered Amex offers (Benz) that were NOT his links.

    And, as he pointed out above, there have been many reports of Amex getting stricter on getting targeted bumps if you were not actually targeted (including some reports of Amex building into their system the ability to track targeted offers).

    In any event, FTG is the first one to point out when a deal is bad (like the recently released, disappointing United Explorer offer). And since when is having more options (for non-targeted 50k offers, no less) a bad idea?

  • david

    Of course now all ftg readers will attack…
    I'm in no way saying that you manipulate or falsely review all offers…I just think This offer is pretty shot with the high spend and that there were alterior motives for the post… I still read and enjoy your blog on the daily, but I just felt the need to voice my opinion on what I felt was more of an advertisemrnt than a good offer.

  • Carl

    The bump to 75k for the personal Amex PRG is dead based on my experience. I tried twice.


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