Excellent Award Redemption by Andrew

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Update For Newbies and Veterans Alike: The PointsBreak list of hotel offerings is out again. These are hotel nights worldwide available for 5000 Priority Club points per night. One of the best values in the hotel market.

Cable Beach Sunset, Broome, Western Australia, photo by Andrew Ingersoll

Excellent American Airlines Award Redemption 
by Andrew Ingersoll

A friendly “hello” to new readers. I’m Andrew, the son of Rick the Frugal Travel Guy. I’m currently living and studying a postgraduate law degree in Sydney, Australia. For more on how I got to where I am click the “about” tab. I contribute weekly to the blog my experiences traveling to various places around the globe. I love getting into a culture and experiencing life as a local. I’ve been really lucky to travel to some cool ultra-expensive places using frequent flyer miles.

This past week, I went to Broome, Western Australia. Broome is the gateway to the remote Kimberly region of Northwestern Australia. What made this trip remarkable was the amount of money I saved on the flights.

Whenever I am contemplating a new trip, I start with Kayak.com and use the +/- 3 day feature to get an idea of 1) cost of a ticket, 2) airlines that serve the destination, 3) timing of flight arrival and departure. A SYD-BME (Sydney to Broome) round-trip flight on Virgin Australia was roughly $750-800. A flight on Qantas was $1270. Not having enough Virgin Frequent Flyer miles, I logged into my American Airlines account to check my mile balance. (For newbies, Qantas and American are OneWorld Alliance partners). Having taken advantage of last year’s Citibank American Airlines credit card deals, I had plenty of AA miles for the journey to Broome.

The American Airlines website has a chart which illustrates the number of miles required for redemption; in my case, 10,000 miles each way within Australia or New Zealand. So that’s a total of 20,000 American Airlines miles for the round trip to Broome via a connection in Perth as opposed to $1270! Considering I received 50,000 miles for the Citibank card signup, this is a big win for me!

Port of Broome Beach, Western Australia, photo by Andrew Ingersoll

I rang up the American Advantage desk and was flexible with my dates. The agent was able to find times and flights that suited me. I provided my points earning credit card to pay the taxes and reservation fee. All up $67 +20,000 miles. Whenever I ring, I am always thankful and appreciative of the agent on the other line. I can’t imagine what sort of flack they must get.

Again, for newbies, this is one of many examples of how frequent flyer miles and credit card sign up bonuses can take you to some incredible locations at prices we can all afford. At the risk of sounding like a cheesy ‘plug’, the Frugal Travel Guy Handbook really is a great starting point for new people to this fun hobby. As Rick has mentioned, profits for book sales go to the Wounded Warrior Fund. Many of these travel tips and tricks work all over the world. I saved almost $1200 here in Australia.

 Next week, I’ll share some of the things I was able to do while in Broome.

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  • MYRflyer

    FTG on ABC, congrats Rick!

  • The Man of a Thousand Places

    I just saw the piece on TV! Awesome!

    It's great to see that this hobby is catching some attention. Free travel is the best!

  • scwam

    Oh Nooooooo! It's all over with now.
    But we still love you Rick

  • Anonymous

    Just saw the Nightline special. Nice!

  • Z

    Hi Rick –

    As you know, I've been an avid reader and follower for the past year or so; just finished watching the Nightline piece; AWESOME! You did a great job – and it looked like they did a nice presentation. Definitely a great plug for you – and well-deserved! Keep up the great work; looking forward to reading and learning more and more!

    btw – You're in some impressive company – being showcased on the same night as Lady Gaga!

    Regards,
    Cory

  • Tammi

    Loved the bit on Nightline! I was in the travel industry but since then haven't been able to travel on one income….you gave me hope that my deepest desire to see this beautiful world just may still be reachable!
    Thank You! Happy Thanksgiving!

  • Ron B

    Wow … You're looking great on TV … We have a star in our midst!

    We're not really "Extreme Mileage Hoarders", though. We know how to use them as well as we earn them!

  • Blake’s Takes

    Hi Rick,

    Nice feature on Nightline tonight, but perhaps you might have done just as much by not saying anything? I realize that the opportunity to go on ABC and be on TV…even while having a segment in first class, where you personally said the past week or so that you never sit in F if you can help it…would be a bit too much to pass on (I know I would consider it!), but with the increasing role of government in our daily lives — not to mention the swift shutdown of the US Mint situation after the much less patronized NPR segment — might you have just kept well enough alone and not submitted to this interview? Keep things to myself has always been my mantra in this travel world that I have lived in for the past 7 years, and perhaps keeping your mouth shut would have been better than basically promoting your blog to the world….although YMMV. That being said, my subscription and bookmark to your blog has been discontinued as of immediately, so best of luck in the future and maybe I will come back in a few years.

    tbf

  • JeffISU

    Great segment! And welcome new readers to our game… it's quite addictive :) .

  • michael

    Such a great show… You were the first blog I came across and it changed the way I vacation..

  • Anonymous

    Great segment on ABC. I'm thrilled that not only did you receive great exposure, but that you are interested in helping others do what you love to do most, travel frugally. Congratulations and I will continue to learn from your blog.

  • 3 Left Turns

    Wellcome all new travelers. Great show last night. I am not going to worry about the wide new audience interested in our hobby as a result of your excellent rewiew . We freely give out our techniques and hacks, yet few ever take it up. Telling all my friends that I've been to London, Vience, Florence, Rome this s pring. – Vancouver in the summer, St Andrews, Marseille, Paris in the Fall, and heading to Madrid, Barcellona tomorrow on FF points —– and showing them how — none do it!

  • ColonelretWes

    Miles/Points Professor Ingy; Kudos Rick for showcasing our wonderful miles/points travel hobby in a scale not reached before–The FTG family and bloggers mentioned are making a strong positive travel difference for many, many folks.

  • deltagoldflyer

    Well done Rick. That was great. (and you thought you got a lot of emails each day before this? HA get ready to be flooded even more!)

  • alohastephen

    Good job Rick!

  • Anonymous

    Great show Ingy.

    Thegrailer
    aka fueldump

  • tc fly girl

    Wow, what a great job Rick! Nice balance between inspiring new people to travel yet not giving up the "secrets"! You rock.

  • Tex

    Great info like this is bound to get out eventually – however can you imagine the uproar if this had been Darius that went on TV? :)

  • Jay

    I'll echo what Tex said

    Kudos for getting on tv, but isnt this a little hipocritical considering you blasted Darius earlier this year for giving away too much info?

  • Rich A.

    Ingy, IMHO, your ABC piece grossly violated one of the fundamental rules of our game, "Don't Call!" which is the same as don't tell the whole world. If FF seats are harder to come by in the future, we can all thank you.

  • Travis

    Seems like a lot of people have the "don't tell anyone about this deal, besides me" motto. We are all taking advantage of Rick's site, let's give him some credit (and busineess). Great interview!

  • Phil

    Rick congratulations on the TV piece. I also noticed a glimpse of Mommy Points in one of the scenes from Chicago. This is getting like celeb spotting.

    I think it's unfair to single you out but I will tell you my wife and I watched and we both agreed at the end of it that this is the beginning of the end. Using points that cost an issuer maybe $1-2k to pay for a $20k ticket is an arbitrage that won't exist forever. Yes the game has run a long time but we are already seen signs of cracks with redemption levels going up and YQ fees being implemented and availability getting harder. The more and more people pile in, the harder and harder it will get and the more and more miles will be needed. I am sitting on nearly 3m miles today and need to use them up quickly as I don't see them being worth that much in five years time.

    Anyway good job Rick and I think you came across very well… if things do go downhill from here I am sure you can get a job on TV :)

  • FrugalTravelGuy

    Tex, Jay and Rich: Thanks for comments.. All opinions are welcome here. I never divulged detailed intricacies of certain plays on the piece just welcomed people to our game to take as much or little as they want. The more players we have, the more deals we'll find.

  • Anonymous

    "The more players we have, the more deals we'll find"??? Who are you kidding? What would "newbies" know to "find" more deals? They will click on your ads and add to your profits – that's all you hope to gain from this exposure!

  • Linda

    Agree with Anonymous above. Hypocritical given how many times you have blasted people for giving something more exposure. Seems the rules don't apply to yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Any youtube captures of the clip?

  • FrugalTravelGuy

    Linda:and exactly how many times have I blasted someone for giving out intricate detailed information? Once. And did I give out intricate detailed information in the Nightline piece? Nope. You're absolutely correct though. I do decide personally what to share and what to keep on the down low. You are entitled to that same privilege and just did so.

    Anonymous: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8999371/frugaltravelguy_abcnews.mp4

  • houstonmama

    I have been earning miles/points for almost a year now so I would consider myself a newbie. I have, however, been couponing for years, long before extreme couponing came along. That show was the worst thing that happened to couponers!! Stores changed their policies & most coupon items were out of stock when u got there. Unfortunately, I see the same thing happening to the miles/points collecting world. Airlines & hotels will change their policies. With only a certain amount of award seats available & LOTS more people trying to book using their miles it will make it almost impossible to get seats :( . I hope that this doesn't happen, of course, but only time will tell.

  • wise2u

    the end of the piece said "all this takes a lot of work and a lot of study" which was true when Flyertalk and a few (4 or 5) blogs talked about it. You had to invest the time to learn the lingo, read the threads, and learn the angles. I gave up on FT for a couple of years, before I came back and took the time to figure it out.
    Now for better or worse there are dozens of blogs spoonfeeding step by step instructions. I think it will undoubtably make things worse for us. When slickdeals, fatwallet and multiple how-to blog sites draw attention to travel "hacks" and make their slack-jawed greedy readers point collectors it hurts us all.
    soon credit card offers will be less generous and points will devalue. Loopholes will close after the masses abuse them, from big ones like the dollar coins, to small things like being able to bump a sign up bonus with amex.
    Here is a golden goose, let me explain in details so simple an idiot can get it, the steps to get it to lay a golden egg before it dies of exposure, and when everyone does it golden eggs will be worthless.

    Good intentions and bad results…these bloggers aren't doing it for the good of the community, they are doing it to brag…look how easy it is, look what I can do, look at how many people find my blog interesting, look at the money my ads make, or learn more buy my book. They should just enjoy the fruits of their knowledge. Let the people that are willing to work and study the programs and put effort into figuring it out be welcomed into FT and other community sites. Let the rest think it's too hard to figure out and not worth the time or effort. All the point blogs, including yours basically regurgitate FT info and spoon feed it to readers to lazy or dumb to research it themselves…do you really want them to get you next award seat? You can call me selfish, but advertising how easy this is to do, to someone who doesnt pick up on that fact themselves, is stupid.

  • Tex

    @houstonmama – I totally agree, but I am hoping that since redeeming miles is a bit more difficult than using a coupon (and most people still don't believe it will work) will help it die a slower death than couponing….

  • Anonymous

    Rick,

    Nice piece from Nightline, and nice blog BTW. This is my first time posting on yours even though I have been reading it regularly.

    I am particularly impressed by two stories in the show:
    - 12-15 car rentals in one morning, and
    - many stop-overs in a round trip.

    Speaking of the 2nd story, I think the show says you spend 110K miles for a business class trip to China, with stop-overs including Beijing, Xian and Shanghai. I believe 110K miles is the standard business class requirement. How did you manage to get 3 stop-overs in China out of a round trip?

    Chister

  • Kim R

    I actually thought the segment was very well done.. and honestly, from the point of view of a person sitting at home watching, I don't think they're going to jump up and apply for cards and steal all of our deals/seats, honestly. I spoke to a few friends about this, who know what I do, and asked them to watch. Did the segment make them want to apply for everything out there? Nope.. they actually said "seems like more work than I'm willing to do right now, and I am not interested in new cards" – even after all the explanations, a lot of people STILL won't get it. I've talked about this to MANY friends and out of all of them I maybe have *2* who have gotten on board with me, and to maybe 1/10th of the degree to which I participate. So I think it'll be quite some time before deals are a thing of the past for us. We will always be a small group and that's great.

  • Anonymous

    i think the fallout will not be as bad as couponing. travel deals involve more than a piece of paper. they involve SSN, credit pulls, a minimal monetary investment – stuff that the average person would not do or at most would start and fail to continue.
    i have benefited from rick's blog as well as for example slickdeals. but i've also seen on slickdeals how the actions of the greedy majority (not few) make things difficult for others. it's all good.

  • dhammer53

    Someone upthread said newbees don't know how to find the deals. I disagree. There are multiple threads on Flyertalk where noobs found and posted 'mistake' fares.

    FYI, I turned my brother-in-law onto the Southwest credit card. Over the years, he always asks how I got all those miles. I send him all the links. He never even responds with a thank you. Yesterday he sent me an e mail that he cashed in 48,000 points for $600 in Hyatt gift cards. Looks like he finally 'got it'.

    My point… lots of people watched that Nightline segment, but few paid attention, except maybe to laugh (at us).

  • Anonymous

    I also think few will jump on board. My son thinks people fear doing something wrong, and that there is a catch somewhere. How many of you continue to spoon feed your friends: sending links, booking award flights, rooms,etc, without them really wanting to learn for themselves? Maybe it's only me? I keep waiting for them to get excited because they've seen the benefits.

  • FrugalTravelGuy

    To all the naysayers, remember you were a newbie once. Seems selfish to me to want to close the door to Paradise just because you made it in.

    Just for the record, the number of extra visitors to my sitethe day afer was about 8000 out of 5 million viewers. I'm not to worried about the award seats running out.

  • Charles Clarke

    Rick,
    I'm interested in knowing, of that 8000 extra visitors, how many clicked on your links and how many got approved for a card. I'd be surprised if more than 10% clicked through.

    I've told a variety of folks about gaining miles/points and, as far as I know, no one that I haven't walked through has actually signed up for new credit cards.

    Even folks who ask me about fixing their credit won't take the first step of getting a FREE credit report.

    I'm surprised that those folks who are so fearful of the good deals vanishing were able to overcome their fears enough to actually take advantage of the deals out there.

  • FrugalTravelGuy

    Charles: Great question. I can't answer al of it as I don't know if one visitor clicked through on one ad or ten. all I see is total clicks which increased significantly but I expected it would as this was a new game to many. if it was one click per visitor old and new. it was about 1 click per every ten page views so your ten percent guess is right on. now the number of new card approvals is still unknown as it takes time for them to post. that percentage hsitoricaly is way less then 10% of the clicks. Way less. With new readers, I'm actually in hopes the number of clicks for the credit scoring services is the majority of the clicks. If the new readers don't know their scores, we all know the trouble that can bring.


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