My Card Churning Schedule and The Reasoning Behind It

Posted by Monday, January 09, 2012, No Comments

Philemer, the moderator of the credit card forums on Flyertalk, asked me to write a post he could refer to when he receives questions from new members regarding my churning schedule.

I get asked all the time how often and how many credit cards I churn. Here is my simple equation, which has worked successfully for the past three years.

I know that, in the short run, card issuers will allow you more frequent applications IE (Chase allows one per month). But I’m interested in a long-term strategy.

I churn cards every 90 days plus one day, and do the applications for the next batch all on the same day. My reasoning is:

By waiting 90 days between applications, I have never been denied for “too many recent inquiries.” That time break between applications seems sufficient to alleviate that denial.

I do the applications all on the same day so that, hopefully, all of the card issuers are pulling their credit reports on that same day and they can’t see the others being done on the same day.

I am a fan of one personal card application per card issuer in each churn and, if available, one business card per issuer if there are sufficiently good offers. The main players are Citi, Chase, American Express, Bank of America, and Barclays. A perfect churn would be five personal and five business cards if there were enough good offers.

Each card is new and different. Most card issuers now only allow one sign-up bonus per individual card type. Some cards have been known to give the sign-up bonus over and over again. I love the state of Alaska;)

Once a credit card has been closed for two years, American Express considers a new application, a new card applicant, eligible for another sign-up bonus for the same card type.

Of course, the system tends to go haywire when we see a big limited-time offer like a British Airways 100,000 miles offer. But barring that happening too often, the above system has been extremely successful for me. In the event of a monster offer, I just break my plan and try for the biggie, then revert back to my 90-day schedule.

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  • Anonymous

    We too have had more than one 'Once in a Lifetime' trip(s).

    dhammer53

  • Bob

    Congrats! And thanks for the tips on jnb-mru, I am booking for a nieces wedding and didn't even know.

  • Anonymous

    Our own private joke is "once in a lifetime trips" every single year. Now that we've discovered these blogs, we're trying for twice a year.

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    Msp2msy

    Really enjoyed your post. Thanks

    Can U post details of the Stellenbosch vineyard. & Capetown boutique hotels ?.

    I'm looking for such a recommendation ?

  • Anonymous

    We were in the Cape Town area for 7 nights (6 useful days). In my message to Rick, I kept to just the “points” aspect otherwise it’d quickly become a full trip report.

    Our first two nights were at the Westin in downtown Cape Town on SPG Cash+Points. Nice and included breakfast as an SPG Gold benefit I believe. The real novelty was being there while Porsche held their dealer launch event for the new 911, including a what appeared to me to be a perfect early-mid 1960’s 911 sitting in the lobby. Neat.

    We spent 2 nights at Auberge Rozendal Wine Farm. Nice location with a very short drive downtown for dinner and a good location to stop by vineyards. The staff was great and the view from our porch very nice. Accommodations were nice and simple with dinner offered each evening (for an extra cost). We did stay in for dinner one evening and enjoyed it. We were able to use an expedia best rate guarantee coupon here for $50 off which helped and influenced out choice slightly. 2 nights here and 1 day for touring vineyards was good for us. http://www.aubergerozendal.co.za/

    We also spent 2 nights at Blue on Blue bed and breakfast in Kalk Bay. No discount techniques to add here but we enjoyed it. 3 units, I think, in the B&B and rooms are small. The location up the steep mountainside gave a very nice view. The staff was wonderful and breakfast was very nice. They can provide a personal tour of the Khayelitsha township which I recommend ($25/hour – expect three to four hours). No doubt they hoped we would buy a few things and/or make some donations during the tour but worthwhile. http://www.blueonbluesa.com/

    Our last night was at the Grand Daddy Hotel in Cape Town where we stayed in one of the airstream trailers on top of the building. It was novel but I’m not sure I’d do it again since I think you can get a regular room and just go to the rooftop bar (which had little to no service – perhaps just bring your own bottle). We left at 5AM the next morning so I don’t have any comments on breakfast or service. Again, we were able to use an Expedia Best Rate Guarantee $50 coupon. http://www.granddaddy.co.za/

    Enjoy your trip to Cape Town. We’d love to spend more time in the area… in fact, just booked my mileage run with 26 hours there in early March.

    –msp2msy


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