Increasing Your Credit Score with Credit Cards

May 8, 2012

Howie Rappaport | Google+

The most comment myth about applying for credit cards that we need to get past is “applying for credit cards will ruin my credit”. It just isn’t true.

Here’s the truth:

Applying for a credit card or loan will result in a “hard inquiry” to one or many credit bureaus which will negatively impact your credit score 2 to 5 points
The impact of these inquiries fall off over time … meaning: When you apply for a credit card or loan, within the first 30 days you may see a 5 point hit against your score. 90 days after application (with all other things equal on your credit) you may see your score creep back up 1 point. 180 days out it may go up again. Over the course of 24 months the negative impact of that inquiry will be completely gone.
When you have that new line of credit you’ll have an opportunity to INCREASE your score as you’ll now have the ability to:

Establish additional successful / on-time payment history
Prove your trustworthiness with additional credit and proper use of it (utilization)
Increase your credit depth (how long you have accounts)
Availability of credit (If a creditor has trusted you with credit previously you have an established relationship with them that you can use to secure additional credit if needed)

Your credit IS one of your most important assets. If you cannot pay your bills in full every month you should not be applying / seeking additional credit.

One of our readers Avi put together some notes and screenshots from his applications across the past year and a graph of his credit score as it actually INCREASED throughout his applications and an application for a mortgage. Read on …

Rick,
I have been reading your blog for a while and know for the fact its hard to get people interested in credit card applications. I travel for a living and had a hard time to get my colleagues to understand about the credit cards applications. A part of me broke inside when someone from office used 80k miles to fly domestic. Anyways here’s the latest info I sent them and thought your readers might be interested too. (These are the cards that Avi applied for and was approved for):

Apart from the 560k miles and points from credit cards, I did get 100k from grand slam, about 150k miles from travel (last yr was slow, did 250k dl mqm in 2010) and about 150k hilton and 70k spg. Oh you must also be wondering why I did only a few credit cards last year. Well I took a 5 month break to get ready to apply for a mortgage (scored a 3.75% 30 yr fixed) and then applied again. Hope it helps a few readers with their travel dreams.

Have a good one!

Avi also sent over a screenshot from CreditKarma showing how his credit score INCREASED throughout his applications.

I don’t want this to serve as a message saying “apply for credit cards, it will make your credit increase”, that isn’t the point. Even with Rick’s perfect 990 VantageScore he was still initially declined on a Bank of America Virgin America card. I want to make sure we all understand the facts with an example other than Rick, or myself, or Shannon or Andrew, that by properly using your credit you can indeed increase your score AND see the world at prices we can afford.

Myth: applying for credit cards will ruin my credit … BUSTED.

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Just a note on the graph – it’s not really accurate because this person only appeared to measure their credit score 2-3 times in more than a year. It would be much more accurate if they did it every month, and then you could see the ups and downs as a result of the applications.
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Wise2u

The MYTH is that credit works the same for everyone. It is so individualized that nobody can figure out exactly how FICO scores are determined. It is based on many variables. To make a blanket statement that applying for multiple credit cards doesnt hurt, and cant ruin your credit, is very ignorant.
There are forums devoted to credit as big as some of the major travel forums. So stick to the travel advice or do a little research on those forums before you spread misinformation.
One big downside of the popular trend of applying for many cards at once is the dramatic increase in available credit after an app-o-rama, not only is it a red flag, but after a couple of those every credit agency will note “too many applications” “account age average too short” these are negatives that take more than a year to get adjusted. In most cases, it is better to space applications out, than make 6 in a day, even if you avoid a double pull by one bank by applying for two of their cards. The best advise is to research the credit forums like you would the travel forums before you make a mistake that will hurt your credit either short or long term

http://www.facebook.com/sunk818 sunk818

The MYTH is that credit works the same for everyone. It is so individualized that nobody can figure out exactly how FICO scores are determined.
http://www.facebook.com/sunk818 sunk818

> It is so individualized
I’d like to call BS on this statement. A FICO score is an algorithm which means there is a formula based on data that is available on your credit report. Those data points are not unique. They are applicable to anyone that has a credit report. Scoring has to work exactly the same for everyone based on the data points they use to generate the score.

Your initial statement makes me question the rest of what you wrote.
Newyorkeroncl

I agree with you. FICO scoring uses buckets to group people with similiar credit histories together. A different algorithm is used based on the bucket you’re in. So for some, 3 new accounts in 6 months may be too many and for others it may have little effect. Additionally, the scores provided by Credit Karma are not FICOs and are for the most part useless.

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Sign up all of your credit cards for the dining programs that earn miles. I live in a rural area in Texas that the closest restaurant on anyone’s list is a two hour drive away, but I have earned over 700 miles on American this year by eating out places I travel to (probably would earn more if I paid attention to the list on AAdantage dining). Anyway it is always a nice surprise when I am going to eat out anyway while I am traveling.
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I think your reader needs to provide more data. Did the person have any debt at the time the credit snapshot was made? How much did their overall credit increase? Do they have other outstanding debts (car, mortgage)? How many hard inquiries did they have previously and now? Like you suggest, I think there are too many variables to make a direct correlation.

Avi

I am the reader who provided the info above. I had about 6k of 0% CC debt (in Jan 2011 and still paying at 0%) on an overall limit of 151k (current) across multiple credit cards. I did not keep track of the hard inquiries all through the year but if my memory serves me right, I had 14 Experian, 8 Equifax and 6 TU inquiries in the middle of last yr.
No car loan. I did get a mortgage as mentioned in the post in Nov’11.

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